Looking for young up and coming talent that’s what it’s all about you know when you come in and you fight your ass off, you get your opportunity and see what they do with it kind of a cool redemption story. For pick it right. I mean there’s two losses before what’s. Your mindset on somebody like that when they come in twice they’ve come up short twice i mean. Are you? Are you you know? Is the debt stacked against them or what’s what’s your take on evaluating for a third time? No, not at all. I i think that uh, you know when you have a guy like that, the fact that he came back for a third time. A lot of people might say you know fuck this i’m done, and maybe i should do something else or whatever, but a guy who’s come back three times and fights like he fought tonight, um against the kid who’s, a knockout artist, um yeah, you get your shot. Man, you know some people have it easy they get in here, quick and and and some people have to work for it. Man and i respect i respect the grind. I respect the guys that that keep coming back and work hard. I would ask you about rafael. I was obviously impressive, but the tumbling routine to start was was the fact that he got it right. The second time was that helpful for him getting the contract. I honestly don’t know why guys do that shit? You risk blowing an ankle a knee anything, but that guy is a physical freak.

I mean: did you see his physique turn? The fight in i mean that guy is his back is insane. You can just tell that he’s, a physical freak yeah, the one he passed on tonight, anthony romero – i mean he was very very impressive. Was that yeah yeah? Listen, the kid the kid i’ll tell you, the the tough thing is he’s, eight, no he’s from canada. Um. You know he was in a tough fight against a really tough guy, but when i looked at certain things, um Music, couldn’t finish with that lead, kick was going for. Takedowns um really had a hard time it’s. When the kids switched up southpaw. I actually told uh breeden after the fight. You should fight southpaw. You look good southpaw, um and he’s 23 years old. The kid’s eight know he’s 23 years old he’s got nothing but time that that kid’s gon na get better and he’s gon na be great someday. He’S, not even he’s, not even anywhere near in his prime, yet he’s he’s still a young kid. You touched on a little bit with silva and i’ll. Ask you about breeding as well. I mean guys have performances like that. The other thing this does this gives some of these other promotions an opportunity to pick this kid up. Pick him up, make him your star. Maybe he becomes a world champion. One of these other organizations and – and you know, can can uh get some experience and stuff.

Like that, if, if you’re another promoter and you’re not watching this, show and picking up what i don’t you’re an idiot, yeah you’re, an idiot and that’s a kid that that that somebody could definitely pick up and and make their their star in their and their promotion. Uh, it was touched on silva and breed. I mean those guys were tough as nails. Do they i mean in losses, do guys like that sometimes get on your radar or somebody that you might want to call up later on tonight. I got up twice and walked over to the to the curtain with where the guys who lost the fight are and uh yeah silva, so much respect for that kid, too ann breeden, i i told them both um and you know the matchmakers see that stuff and When guys fall out and we have late minute, replacements and stuff, those are the first guys that pick up the phone and call without a doubt, you’ve got a busy week. I want to ask you about speaking on thursday what uh? What are you planning on doing with your speech? Obviously you’ve done it before what’s uh give us a preview of what we can hear from you yeah. You have to tune in thursday and find out i’ll let it speak for itself yeah. I i leave tomorrow night and uh yeah, i don’t know you’ve been loyal to trump for a long time. Obviously it’s a weird time in our country did you think at all about maybe seeing this one out with as divisive as things are in politics right now? No, no, that shit, doesn’t bother me listen, this is america, everybody has their own opinions and their own choices.

I know that that sometimes people go after you because of whatever, but everybody knows me, everybody knows what i’m about and uh you know i don’t know talk to me after the speech. Do you worry also? Do you worry that people automatically assume that by you speaking, you sign off on everything he does? I don’t give a shit. No, i don’t, i don’t care what what people think of me or what they think. All the people who know me know who i am and know what i’m about other than that i i could care less there’s tons of guys that that that hate trump, whether it’s celebrities or whatever and uh you know, i’m cool with all of them. We’Re all cool it doesn’t, like i said the people who know me know me and people who don’t all judge me anyways that doesn’t matter to me. I could care less well, just a couple more since you could be gone this weekend. Uh i designed across to the rivalries heating up there it’s i mean everybody’s looking forward to do, we know a location. Yet when we get to the fight of the year man, i can’t wait for this fight um, i i i keep talking, but still to this day, you guys might disagree, i don’t know, but i still have whaley zhang versus johanna hill and jay check. Still, we were in a meeting the other day and we had those big tvs that play out there.

It literally that was on and it fucked up the whole meeting for me because i couldn’t stop watching that fight and it’s, so goddamn good uh. That fight but i’m telling you what’s, going to give it a run for its money, is gon na, be that fun. Obviously, the two fights that you got ta think are gon na, give that a run as as gaichi versus uh abiba and uh, israel and costa, and no, i do not have a have a location yet fair enough. Last thing for me, i want to ask you about jon jones, his announcement to move to heavyweight. Have you started talking to him at all about like when he would like to have his first fight? No, i would. As far as last time, we talked to jon jones, jon jones, said he’s, going to take some time and do his. You know things that he’s into right now, um and and and take some time and when there’s a you know a right fight. He’Ll give us a call, could you see him waiting for the winner of francis mcdonald and steve baby and fighting that winner, or do you think he’s got ta get a win at heavyweight before he gets a title shot? I have no idea what he’s gon na do. I honestly don’t know but is being is his pedigree enough to walk into a title fight? In your opinion, of course, i mean realistically jon jones is undefeated, he’s never been beat.

You know nazi god, he’s been out of the game for years. I want to keep beating this guy up, but you know you know. Jon jones is undefeated. Was tonight the highest level we’ve seen on the contender series yet yeah tonight. I think today i think tonight was the best night. I think that uh, what i loved about tonight, everybody came to fight man, everybody came to fight and uh. You could just tell everybody wanted to win. Everybody had that killer instinct, even albus fight he. You know that kid was a tough kid he fought was giving him problems. He risked it jumped onto that guillotine and choked them out. You know those things are dangerous risky. He doesn’t get that and that kid pulls out of it. He’S on the bottom of you know when he didn’t have to do that. I love kids that go after it, man and and try to finish and you’re here. This is your. This is your chance to show us what you got. Don’T squeak out a decision win man go for something show us who you are. I know a quick finish, never hurt anybody, but is it sometimes better to see these guys in back and forth wars with another great guy, so you can just tell like wow quality right here. Yeah you’ll get those, but i like guys to finish too. You know you come in, we put on these great fights. The matchmaking on the show is unfucking believable.

These guys are the are the two best guys to be fighting each other and when you go in – and you finish a guy like this, it means something i want to touch on something you said to john about. Other promoters need to be watching this show without naming any names or anything like that. Do you get frustrated, sometimes in the sense that not only am i doing the highest level of this show of the sport i’m. Also, building up the new stars for everyone else, and no one else in the sport is stepping up and doing the same thing. Do you ever feel frustrated? I just think they don’t know how to i mean out of the 20 year history of being in this sport. The answer is they don’t know how to that’s. The only thing i can come up with is that they’re just not good enough to do it. So you know everybody waits until somebody gets let go here and then they pick them up um but yeah. That would be a smart thing to do. You know grab that eight, no canadian, kid and uh and build him that’s. The other thing they’re, not very good. At either just uh following up on the trump speech just curious, do you have to get that vetted by his people and you get to write it out beforehand or do you just get to wing it and speak from off the ground, get up there and say Whatever i want that’s either a crazy, remember anything and last thing: i know we’re sort of the pandemic stuff we’ve all spoken about it to death now but i’m curious end of august academic since march, has the apex now paid for itself.

Essentially, the apec is incredible. Um, what we’ve been able to do here through this thing is has been unbelievable. Uh. I i don’t even know. If you guys know this but fuck it i’ll tell you anyway. We just bought 10 acres over. Here too, we got another 10 acres, now um more stuff coming soon land. We bought some land, yeah 10, more acres of land and probably start building again next year. Yep. Can you give us a hand on on what you’re building hotels, hotels we’re going to build? Our own hotel, wow yeah, then we’ll be completely self sufficient, that’s that’s, quite some news. So when do you see this being uh, hopefully next year depends on how this crazy shit. You know what happens here in the next whatever, but um, obviously with what’s going on right now, our own hotel would pay for itself real quickly. Would this be a place that would just be exclusively for the ufc we’re talking about doing other events over here and stuff, like that, we’re uh and we’re gon na start doing lots of programming for um for ufc fight pass over here too, is it a place Where fans could come and stay at the ufc hotel uh, it would be more designed for fighters yeah it’s going to be just like the apex was designed for fighting and putting on special events. This place would be designed exactly for what our needs are in a in hotel to the rnc convention uh on thursday there’s, a lot of prop bets out there, yeah yeah, and one of them, is what color of shirt you’re going to wear.

Yeah everybody. The white is the most red is the the long shots guys. I saw a lot of comments with people like you know, it’s going to be black. Can you tell us that we can make a little bit of money? I don’t want to fuck up all the bets that people made already good luck. Everybody has uh an association with trump has that helped get the ufc going again during this pandemic. Did that help us? I think trump’s been very pro business. Very i mean, and not just us, but you know as part of that task force that he put together and literally every sport. Every major sport in the united states was a part of it and and uh he did a great job of that he was. He was uh instrumental in in helping all of us come back and very supportive did uh. Did the white house or trump have anything to do with helping you get fight island going um? No, no flight island was we. We did that. You know with the guys in abu dhabi, look forward to the hotel. Yeah me too thanks this year was the first season that uh mexican fighters came to fight here in the guthrie series, and at some point you talked about having a potential in latin america. You still have that plan, you got another mic and my guy, you know my guy this thing isn’t working too good he’s on the phone.

Would that be a casino in the play? No, no. You know i’m a sick, sick man right. You know that that’s all! I need um. Yes, the answer is yes and we’re. Working on a pi, too we’re working on a pi 2 down there, we had a, we had a spot picked out, um for the pi in in mexico city and then some stuff went on with the landlord and the whole deal fell apart and then the world Fell apart, so we’ll get our shit together when the world gets its shit together. You know i. I notice that jay rodriguez left here with alejandro tonight. Did you get to see him in these days or he went to the pi or something? What was the question rodriguez? Was here yeah? No, i didn’t see him when he was here just uh. Finally, for me, uh saying that he wants to fight twice this year, he’s looking for a fight late september. Has he asked you for this fight, or did you just see him fighting twice this year? Okay, um? He wants to fight twice this year, um that’s, a tough one. I don’t know i love watching calvin gosselin fight, i mean if he could fight twice this year. We would do it, you know i i don’t mind turning guys around quickly, so if he can do it, we’ll probably pull it off, but where he sits in that division, you have to have two guys for him to fight this year.

You know he’s he’s, not he’s, not like uh, not one of the top guys in the world he’s one of the top 15 guys in the world. So i don’t know if we can make two fights for him at the end of this year, but give it a shot and just finally uh saturday uh, you say probably dustin’s gon na fight uh tony. Do you see that fight happening the same night as uh? Have even justin like an elimination for them, um, probably all right. Do you have any update about anderson? Is it going to be his last fight? Yes, it will be his last fight, so he agreed. He said yes, it’s going to be my next fight. Yes, last fight. My last question is: how old are you against who’s going to be here in vegas yeah? Did we not announce that yet we did dad’s in vegas cool.