We said that the associated press is revealed supreme court nominee barrett served for nearly three years on the board of a private christian school which barred openly gay teachers effectively barred admission to children of same sex. Parents, trinity schools around schools in indiana, minnesota and virginia affiliated with the secretive religious group people of praise, of which barrett is a long time. Member um that’s just the latest news. The schools teach that homosexuality is abomination against god. You have urged senate democrats to use every procedure possible to block her confirmation. Why a barrick confirmation is a catastrophe. We don’t know a fraction about her it’s. This is like getting married in three weeks except it’s, not getting married it’s. Choosing somebody who’s gon na govern us effectively decide the rules of our democracy, the rules governing our bodies, the rules governing our intimate relationships for 50 years, and we don’t actually need to know that much to know that a six three majority on the court is basically A bomb coming at what is left of our protections against uh corruption in politics against corporate money, um. What is left of the voting rights act? I mean this is an absolute uh, uh, five ten alarm fire catastrophe and the democrats have not been, for instance, denying unanimous consent at every single vote, forcing uh mcconnell to deliver every single senator every single moment. Um there’s techniques that have already opportunities that have already passed. For instance, the democrats could have had week by week continuing resolutions to keep the government going forcing mcconnell to produce his vulnerable senators and there’ll be moments coming up this thursday.

But i what i hear from the democrats is well that isn’t sure to work or isn’t likely to work. That is not the question. If there is a one in 500 chance that a two hour delay caused by impeachment, let alone a day, delay caused by impeachment of bill barr, for instance, would lead to enough disruption that enough republican senators would say mcconnell you’re, asking too much i’m, not going to Be there for you, then we wouldn’t be leading into this catastrophe. So i i think we really need to see in these last few days, democrats aligned on a very clear message about the whole of the the altogether illegitimacy of this process and the catastrophic danger of this nomination and zephyr teachout in the eventuality that she is confirmed. There’S been increasing debate over what can be done to counter the court packing that has been going on now for several years on the part of the republicans in the federal judiciary. You’Re i’m wondering your thoughts on this whole issue of uh expanding the the supreme court. Uh, if the, if joe biden is elected and the democrats gain control of both houses? Well, i i have been arguing for rebalancing the court for a long time that we, i think it is a small d, democratic necessity, it’s uh solidly constitutionally grounded and after the court uh justice roberts in a uh grotesquely innovative, which is to say he made it Up theory struck down the voting rights act.

It became very clear that we needed a rebalancing of the court and a new understanding of this institution, as well as thinking about uh, shorter terms for for justices. I i think that is, that is absolutely necessary. And finally – and i know you have to go the supreme court decision that just came out around voting rights – the supreme court issuing a four to four ruling on a voting rights case uh in pennsylvania, so significant, because this was a victory for voting rights advocates. It shows the court is evenly divided on these issues. Of course, the election is going to be key if amy coney barrett is confirmed, she would break that tie the significance of this, the the both short and long term. Significance of this is extraordinary, because this is about the court. Um reviewing uh state constitutional decisions about what those local state constitutions require, and you have this very dangerous. Radical uh perspective by four members of the supreme court, which amy barrett would join, which would jump in and second guess those state constitutional constitution based decisions which have been important in allowing people’s votes to be counted in this election. So we could see a justice barrett being a tiebreaker in suppressing votes in this upcoming election and changing the outcomes of the votes that are happening right now for the november third election. Why haven’t democrats pushed harder? Do you think i um? I am pulling my hair out about this i’m.

Sorry to be so well. I’M. Not sorry to be so blunt about it. There is such a deep misunderstanding of risk and short termism and uh failure to understand the scope of this catastrophe and complacency and sclerosis and um, i think. Well, you know what i hear is people say things like that is not likely to work. Well, i will tell you whether you talk to a a serious uh death penalty lawyer, defending their client on death row or a serious corporate lawyer defending against a corporate takeover. Their answer to that question is if we’ve got a one in 100 chance. We are going to file that motion and we just don’t have that approach in the in the senate or in the house zephyr teachout.